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Homestead.com CEO says screw customers!

I’m not sure how proud I am to admit this, but I do have a Homestead account. As a matter of fact, I host about 20 websites at Homestead.com. I opened the account about 5 years ago and the only reason I chose Homestead is because I had absolutely no clue what I was doing and Homestead seemed to be the best option at the time.

I couldn’t have been more wrong…

Since then, I’ve had problems so often that most of the time I just ignore them as I don’t really use those sites anymore. There was a time, however, when I would actually try to contact Homestead support for help. Contrary to what the Homestead big shot, Justin Kitch, says about his customer service, it has got to be some of the worst support I have EVER dealt with. And I have sites hosted on at least ten different hosting companies. Hands down, Homestead is the worst.

To take it a step further so that I don’t just come off as a disgruntled customer with nothing of substance to bitch about, I’ll explain a few of my experiences with the big red house.

My first major let down happened about a year ago. For some unknown reason several of my e-mail accounts just randomly shut down and all data was lost. I couldn’t log in, send from, or receive messages to this account. The account was VITAL because all of my form submissions were being sent there and I didn’t notice the problem until five days of it already being in play.

It took three e-mails and several frustrating phone calls to discover that not one single person at Homestead had a clue of what happened, and it appeared that no one was willing to explain that they didn’t know what was going on and they felt it would be easier to just ignore me.

To this day that e-mail account is down and none of the data has been restored. Simply put, support didn’t want to deal with it and rebuked me for not understanding the value Homestead offers its customers.

From the Homestead CEO blog:

That’s when I learned that sometimes the best thing you can do is fire your customers. If they don’t get the value that you are adding, or don’t appreciate your service, or have unreasonable demands,

Yeah, you read that right. Kitch says he doesn’t need you. In fact, if you complain he’ll just toss you to the curb.

The next issue I ran into was form spam. I have a convention site hosted at Homestead and it ranks well for certain keywords that attract spammers. Homestead has a form creation tool that allows you to easily drag and drop form elements to create a form submission page.

Here is an example of the forms you can make with Homesteads tool.

The problem is these forms are wide open for spam. That page I just linked to receives a good 50 spam submissions a day. My inbox is constantly flooded with these useless forms that are full of porn and hair loss links, and there is no end in site. The worst part about it is I actually have to check them all because I don’t know which ones are real and which ones are fake.

Ridiculous isn’t it?

I figured Homestead Support have a solution so I wrote them a long and well thought out e-mail requesting help. The response I got was something along the lines of “well we have no way to stop it so we recommend you change the URL to avoid the automated script from hitting your form page.

Homestead’s suggestion was that I throw all of my hard work in getting a page to move up the rank ladder with some inbound link action and start all over? As you can imagine, I was upset.

My e-mail doesn’t work and my sites are getting spammed on an hourly basis. I feel I have a valid reason to be little pissed off.

In the mean time, our employees would get demoralized, the customer would want a discount on the remaining work

Yeah, I let a few of your employees have a piece of my mind. I also asked for a discount. What was I told? The message was clear.

“Screw you and screw your discount” is pretty much what I got from the experience.

If you tell them that the customer is always right, and to do whatever they say no matter what, you are effectively telling them that their opinions don’t matter even though they are supposedly professionals in their field.

I guess Homestead believes that employees are always right. That’s interesting, because with my account they’ve NEVER been right.

Needless to say, I’m working on moving my accounts out of Homestead and highly recommend that anyone looking to get into online business stay away from them. Start with Wordpress or something simple and spend some time figuring it out. I made the mistake of picking the quickest fix and I’m paying for it now.

Oh, and for those who want bad advice, read the Homestead CEO blog post, Customers are always wrong.

Rob said,

December 19, 2006 @ 7:56 am

Your greyish font color is horrible to read at 1600×1200.

johnny critic said,

December 19, 2006 @ 7:58 am

Just a small comment about your blog. Perhaps you could increase the contrast between your text and your background.

Reading your blog is like reading a newspaper through frosted glass.

Just a constructive comment.

Adam said,

December 19, 2006 @ 8:05 am

At the credit card call center they taught us “The customer isn’t always right, but it’s how you tell them they are wrong”. Some people are so stubborn and just think they’re right when apparently they aren’t (Hey, they trained me on the terms and service for 2 months — you didn’t even read it. Who do you think knows more?)

I agree that firing customers works, whole heartedly. I see nothing wrong with what he says.

Andrew said,

December 19, 2006 @ 8:06 am

At the bottom of his blog, he does indicate that if you find yourself firing the majority of your customers then you should re-examine your own business.

It sounds like you have run up against some clueless people in his organization however, and firing yourself from them is a good move on your part.

Brandon Wardlaw said,

December 19, 2006 @ 8:15 am

The e-mail screw up is pretty crappy. Find a better host. I’d reccomend Dreamhost.

As far as the forms - That’s what you get for not managing the forms yourself. If they didn’t promise you form spam control in the beginning, they really don’t owe you anything.

Jake said,

December 19, 2006 @ 8:18 am

I’m sorry to let you know this, but in the real world it is necessary to fire clients. It is the best practice, and it is widely used. I’ve seen clients try to scheme their way into discounts and not pay for a provided service. Homestead should have never published those statements, but they are completely valid statements.

ed said,

December 19, 2006 @ 8:21 am

smells like user error to me. you’re fired.

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DekeBlue said,

December 19, 2006 @ 11:30 am

I understand what you are saying. Without the customer, there is no business. At the same time though, there are customers who cost more than they are worth and it makes good business sense to jettison them. Is that a decision for a front line tech support type? Probably not.

As someone who moved through the tech support ranks into management, it can be demoralizing for an employee when management backs the customer “no matter what”.

Often times with services like Homestead, you are dealing with the less technically saavy user and they have no interest in what the problem is, they just want things to work they want them too. Possible or not.

Just my 2 cents.

B said,

December 19, 2006 @ 1:47 pm

Sounds like you fit the profile of what he was talking about. You couldn’t resolve your email problems that you created (bad MX record ring a bell?) and took it out on the support staff. bad customer!

Anonymous said,

December 19, 2006 @ 2:04 pm

Rob & Johnny,

Do you think the font is too small, or just needs to be darker?

-E

Watch ABC Online said,

December 19, 2006 @ 2:10 pm

Homestead is notoriously bad - I can see people getting into a contract with them purely because they seem to have easy tools to build a page, but ultimately they’re not concerned with user experience.

eRod said,

December 19, 2006 @ 2:37 pm

This e-mail came from the CEO, Justin Kitch.

——————————————
Dear [Customer],
I’m gathering that this is not your real email address, but in case it is, I’d appreciate the chance to talk with you about your frustrations. I don’t understand why you are blaming us for the fact that you are getting spammed form submissions? Your host has nothing to do with whether your web addresses get slammed, although I’d be happy to provide you with some suggestions on how to avoid it.

As for your being upset about my philosophy of putting employees first, I’m afraid I have to respectfully disagree with you: everybody, including you, gets a better customer experience if our employees are empowered to demand a respectful exchange with our customers. If you don’t agree, then I think you are making the correct choice by going somewhere else, but I’m afraid in the end your results will be the same or worse.

Once again, I’d like to speak with you about this more, if you are willing.

Justin

Justin Kitch
CEO
Homestead.com
Your website company
————————————-

He makes a valid point about the form submissions. I admit, it’s probably somewhat on my end for that one. But he completely ignores the e-mail issue, which is really what my complaint is all about.

Yes, I was a bit rude. But honestly, I didn’t think it was extreme. Unless, of course, you think asking “why is it that your support staff can’t find my lost e-mail data?” is extreme.

Also, for the record, I mentioned in the phone call that my frustration was not personal, and I even said I was sorry if I came across as angry.

Later, during an e-mail exchange, I was told that I was welcome to move my accounts out of homestead. This, to me, was surprising.

Here is my response.

——————————————

Justin,

Thanks for the response. While I find your censorship of my comment a bit disconcerting (kind of goes against the mantra of the blogosphere), I still appreciate your response.

I understand where you’re coming from about putting employees first. But the problem is that I’ve spoken with employees who have a sense of pride that will not allow them to admit they are wrong and in turn the issue never gets fixed. This was YOUR employees and I am one of YOUR customers. I try not to be rude, and in most cases I’m not. But it happens, and I always make sure your reps understand that it isn’t personal and I’m sorry if it happens.

You have to admit, Justin, that when you have a hosting company that charges you more than just about any other company out there, customers are going to expect something out of your customer support. When my e-mail account was lost last year I had just launched a political action committee and we had people signing up from a newspaper add. Little did I know, we weren’t receiving those sign ups and only God knows how many we lost because of the e-mail data wipe out.

I contacted support with urgency, obviously, and your reps kept handing me to another person because none of them knew anything about it and kept saying something like “we’re forwarding this to tech support”, yet nothing ever happened. Every time I called I was told the process of contacting tech support was starting all over again. It seemed as if no one was interested in working to get it fixed. Weeks passed by, months, and now a year.

In my mind, I have every right to be upset. It isn’t anything personal between me and your employees, rather, it’s a valid concern and mistake on your side of the fence, not mine.

Am I wrong for being angry? Should I be fired from your customer roster over it? From reading your post, yes it seems I should. This is the part that offended me. You posted that as a blanketed statement and I know several Homestead clients who would feel it brushed off in their direction.

Overall, your sitebuilder allowed me to learn things about the internet that I never thought I would learn. It opened doors for me and I’m very greatful for that. But on the other hand, your customer service reps have given me many more than one headache, and it got worse when I saw you write that they are pretty much always right, and we are for the most part wrong.

In fact, I took your post so literally that I’m afraid to give you any account details for fear of what might happen to my account.

Sad isn’t it?

-PC
———————————————–

I host this blog at Siteground.com and have had many issues, my blog being down thanks to Digg for example, and Siteground always fixes them right away. Support is professional and quickly gets me to a person with an answer. It’s even a lot cheaper.

I want to eventually get my sites out of Homestead. The e-mail issue is just the beginning. There are many more examples I could provide, but this one was the most costly for me. It’s time to move on. Now I just need to figure out the best way to go about it.

-E

CGar said,

December 19, 2006 @ 3:51 pm

Someone can probably provide a link, but another article I read recently (via Digg, like this one) addressed this type of thing. The other article basically said that the phrase, “The Customer Is Always Right” is the worst phrase in the history of American Consumerism. I’m not sure I agree that it is the worst, but basically, it has provided the foundation for all too many employee bashings at the hands of the customer.

Stated above: “Without the customer, there is no business.”

While this is inescapably true, it is misleading. If you have no customers, you should do whatever you have to do to get some. If you have customers, your business practices will dictate whether or not they remain a customer or leave. Employed at a web services company, my boss preaches a “value” principle. We value our customers, and they value our services (and their price). They provide for us, and we provide for them. We realize that our customers do not need us specifically, and while we don’t make them aware of it until things are truly horrible, we do not need any one customer specifically. Customers who call up and bitch out our reps or project managers are often warned of this if they do not calm down. Firing clients makes for a stressful short-term situation, but know that a business is created by it’s employees and clients alike.

thinsoldier said,

December 19, 2006 @ 5:09 pm

Learn some html and php and make your own forms. That way you can add all the spam blocking measures you want.

Matt said,

December 19, 2006 @ 6:34 pm

Try Dreamhost

Customer Service at The Gong Show said,

December 27, 2006 @ 1:49 am

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Former Homestead Employee said,

December 27, 2006 @ 6:41 pm

e-rod,

it is unfortunate but don’t let justin’s words fool you. he and homestead are ALL about the money and the faster they get YOU off the phone and onto e-mail, where some unassuming/underpaid rep types in keywords from your e-mail and …taaa-daaa!! a perfectly canned response from their “kana” crm application. sales and service are all about numbers: the # of people you sell, the # customers you save, the # of calls you take, the # of design services you can sell…heaven forbid you take extra time with a customer on the initial sales call eventhough you’ve determined what and how they are going to use homestead or for that matter tried to get them from cancelling their subscription because the sales rep “mis-represented” the product. don’t get me wrong, homestead was a great company to work for but once they decided that the only way they would go the “youtube” route and get bought out is by having tons of customers and higher ASP on every transaction. i know of countless employees who were “cut” from the team because they cared more for the customer and homestead’s best interests, yet could not make the quota of calls, or “saved” customers, or slammed home a “design service” which was farmed out to pakistan (shhh…they don’t want you to know that, ya know, they’re all red, white and blue, ya’ll!) for you, they probably had some marking on your account, an “ALERT” that showed you were a problem customer and they were already on the defensive (and the tool we used actaully had ALERT next to your email ID). take it from justin, whose demeanor is all “great gatsby” and good’ol boy. they don’t pay their entry level support squat, but the sales reps were making BANK!!! You were probably marked from the very beginning by some entry level rep as problem customer and were treated as such, unfairly or not, they had you “pegged” and probably made no effort to resolve your problem cause it meant they had to work. the sitebuilder is easy to use. luckily you did’nt buy their “storefront” product…geez what a piece of crap! good luck getting support for that thing! good luck in your migration to other webhosting companies…don’t feel bad, i had a friend get the same sham from support after i left homestead and they gave him the “kick ya to the curb” e-mail.

isabel said,

January 1, 2007 @ 4:03 am

I so agree with you! I’ve been with homestead for the past 3 years and am very dissatisfied with the service these days. What Justin and his “support” staff fail to take into account is the fact that only web “dummies” like us would use their service — those who wanted a website but were clueless about html and the other technical stuff. Thus customer support should be totally patient and helpful, which is not at all the case:

- unresponsive “canned” answers which are cut and pasted from the faqs section (as if we did not look there first before emailing them)

- several times I would get a “please call customer support hotline” response instead of written explanation

- it would take about 8 emails back and forth before an issure would be resolved as their answers are always off the mark

- recently the tone of the emails (compared to 3 years ago) would be more impatient and exasperated than respectfully, enthusiastically helpful

He published a sequel to that controversial post recently giving a “rowdy restaurant customer” example, which is kinda off the mark as restaurant customers have a PHYSICAL presence that could affect others negatively instantly. Homestead customers are pretty much faceless individuals, not a rowdy group, all just wanting to have an easy time designing a website, willing to pay a premium for using the sitebuilder, even if there are no additional integrated features like blogs or forums. The storefront package that initally came with my package was unilaterally removed by them because I hadn’t started using it.

Well, good luck to him. One day he will find that he is left with his beloved 100+ employees and 0 customers. He is just not listening to his customers anymore. Or maybe he never cared in the first place.

Years ago, the sitebuilder was “revolutionary,” now blogs are the “thing” and homestead is not there at all!

Good luck to you, your sites and blogs. Congratulations on having set up a wordpress blog. That’s definitely an achievement considering you started with homestead. Say anything you want to say! You have my support!

Linda said,

January 9, 2007 @ 5:38 pm

I just posted this on the CEO’s blog with respect to his diatribe about customers.

“Apparently customers are not only 3rd on the list, but far lower than that. I just received my Searchlight monthly accounting statement that showed exactly ZERO hits for the month of December. After inquiring, I was told that because my ad had performed so well in November, they “slowed” it down in December. They didn’t slow it down, they literally stopped it, yet took our monthly fees for Searchlight without bothering to tell us that they had decided to STOP our ad during the busiest shopping season of the year. This for a retail business like mine, that depends on the holiday season to get revenue. I find it absolutely unconscionable that not only would you choose to literally stop my ad during the holiday season, but that apparently your company also saw absolutely no reason to notify me that it had chosen to do that.”

Apparently he doesn’t care about making sure his customers are successful. They literally shut me down during the busiest shopping season of the year.

John said,

January 9, 2007 @ 10:23 pm

How is this possible? They decide when someone advetises? Was this an error on their part?
This would be like google pulling my adwords campaign because I was getting a lot of customers?

What is their TOS like? Can they just do this?

It really seems as though homestead is used to dealing with kids and treats all of their customers as if they are children.
The comments made to you were absolutely ridiculous!

Good luck but I suggest not wasting your breath. Switch to a Real host.
I highly recommend Liquid Web. They manage my servers and do an incredible job. It is a little more expensive than homestead but in hosting you truly get what you pay for (most of the time).

GL

John

Marc Stanley said,

January 15, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

I am a homestead customer like some of you and find the software for building your own website is excellent but and its a BLOODY BIG BUT when it comes to the webmail for Homestead because it is one of the worst in the industry and I cannot think of anything that could be worse which is very strange and annoying is “Understatement of the YEAR” We live in a age of communications which need a quick response and if you cannot respond quickly you are considered to be lacking and rather dead or just plain stupid and dont care about your business …thats email and people deal with people that respond quickly especially if its long distance like me in South America ,,,,if the telephone doesnt work then we get annoyed and shout at customer services but I have sent emails to Homestead over this weekend and have very little response and I realise its difficult to sort it out but it is a very customer related business and Homestead has literally lost 1000s of dollars of business for lots of small businesses this weekend with the failure of its email system …But the real losers will be Homestead at the end of the day because customers will not support a business that does not support them ,,,,The response from Homestead lacks charm when the “ShXt hits the fan” maybe a charm school offensive with a more kind of educated answer would be better ,,,I have no idea all I want is my emails and even if its a Public Holiday in the USA all well and good but what has happened to the escalation procedure that should have been in place when a problem occurs ,,,there is none because its run on a shoe string which I think is great and dont care if all the work is out sourced to Asia or Pakistan ,,,that makes commercial sense and think if a business can save costs and if a business model can do that then fine but we should still get a good service or even better service …At present I could not recommend Homestead to anyone because the email system is so bad that it would not be fair
I may have to look for another service provider for my internet needs because the website service is great but the email system is bad and thats being very kind in deed

TJ said,

February 19, 2007 @ 7:21 pm

I’m a Homestead customer (for how much longer, I’m not sure) and I just had one of their customer service representatives threaten to “fire” me. Here’s how it played out:

It started when I submitted some suggestions to customer support for consideration in future upgrades. My message said, “Can we have more attractive template options to choose from for the countdown counters or, better yet, be given the ability to design our own by choosing colors, fonts, etc. And the same goes for the web polls….all of the pre-designed styles are either really tacky looking or just plain ugly and there is no cell padding on any of them. I noticed the chat windows have some customization options available, so why can’t the web polls have
the same options? Also, whenever we use one of the links you’ve provided for weather, charitable sites, etc., it would be very beneficial if we had the option of having these links open in a separate window, like we do with other types of links, so visitors stay on our site rather than getting distracted and moving on.”

Now, I want to reiterate here, these were SUGGESTIONS. Normally, when one submits suggestions to a service provider, one would get a response like, “Thank you for your suggestions. We will pass them on to our programming department for their consideration.”

But I think I would have been less offended with NO response to these suggestions that the response I DID get, which was: “All of those elements are coded by programmers. To modify them requires modification to the code. We can only have so many template options available, but you can make your own with the tools in sitebuilder or by importing jpgs.” This little tidbit is incorrect by the way…the elements I am speaking of, if you know anything about Homestead’s SiteBuilder, can NOT be made by the customer using the tools in SiteBuilder. But wait, it gets better. This customer service rep goes on to say, “If you would like a highly customized site like your speaking of then you can contact our sales department about our Design service team and we would be glad to build a website for you.” Don’t EVEN get me started on their Design Services team. I DID once try using them to design a site and I got NO results after waiting FOUR months and finally came up on them.

But I digress. I really don’t understand about why the rep responsed to my suggestion in this manner. Perhaps, because of all the other various problems I’ve had in the past with Homestead, even something as innocuous as an email full of suggestions is now “marked” as coming for a problem customer and he decided he was going to give me attitude from the get go. I mean, really? Was I ASKING for a “highly customized site” just be giving a few suggestions for future upgrades? And the part where he states “we can only have so many template options available” and “that would require modification to the code”….. Isn’t that what an “upgrade” is…modification to the code? Mind you, I wasn’t “demanding” an upgrade…I was simply making suggestions for the upgrades that will inevitably come some time in the future. Geeez!

Now, normally, this email interaction alone wouldn’t phase me even in the tiniest. The problem is, since signing up with Homestead, EVERY interaction I have had with them has been at least this frustrating. Usually much, much more so. Having dealt with this “the customer comes third” and “there’s-nothing-wrong-with-our-service-we-don’t-need-your-stupid-suggestions” attitude for several months now, my frustration level has elevated to anger. And I feel after the mess with StoreFront and Design Services, I have a right to be angry by this time. So, I sent back this response to the customer support rep:

“Gosh dang!”

…(And, yes, I really said “gosh” and “dang”…not the alternatives even though that’s what I was thinking. Everything here is VERBATUM)….

“Why does the dialogue with Homestead customer support ALWAYS have to be like this. EVERY SINGLE CORRESPONDENCE I HAVE HAD WITH HOMESTEAD FROM THE VERY BEGINNING HAS LEFT ME WONDERING WHY IN THE WORLD I HAVE INVESTED SO MUCH TIME AND MONEY BUILDING A WEBSITE WITH A COMPANY WHO TREATS THEIR CUSTOMERS THIS WAY. I really fail to understand why Homestead can’t just take a suggestion and file it under “ways we can improve our service and software in the future” instead of taking everything so personally, making lame excuses, then completely dismissing the suggestions. There is ALWAYS room for improvement and if you don’t believe that then I don’t see how you’ve been in business this long (and by all the reviews and blogs I’ve found today on the internet, if you don’t act fast, you won’t be in business much longer). I give up. I THOUGHT (but I now see I was HUGELY mistaken) that customer suggestions were welcomed and would be treated with respect and sincere consideration. But having just read Justin’s blog on how customers rank THIRD with your company, I now understand why nearly all of my correspondence with this company has resulted in me wanted to pull my flippin’ hair out. You people truly don’t give a damn, do you? My cumulative frustration with Homestead has reached a boiling point.”

So…what did my “cumulative frustration” get me? The Homestead customer “support” representative wrote responded with this:

“It was an honest answer and I don’t appreciate you getting angry and swearing when I’m trying to give you an honest answer if your going to continue to react this way then we arnt going to be able to continue helping you.”

So you be the judge: Did he or did he not just threaten to “fire” this customer?

Since reading that, I have made copies of all the HTML code for my entire site just in case I wake up tomorrow and find Homestead has shut down my website. Apparently, a customer getting angry at Homestead is a BIG “no-no,” and Justin feels these types of customers deserve to be fired. Wow have times changed. It seems like phrases such as “customer support” and “customer service” meant something a lot different not that long ago.

“Jake” posted to this blog on Dec. 19 with this: “I’m sorry to let you know this, but in the real world it is necessary to fire clients. It is the best practice, and it is widely used. I’ve seen clients try to scheme their way into discounts and not pay for a provided service.”

And yet, I am not trying to “scheme” my way into a discount or “not pay for a provided service” I simply submitted some suggestions for crying out loud!

And what “Isabe”l posted about “canned” responses from Homestead customer “support” is right on target. I usually have to respond two, three or more times to customer “support” before someone there actually READS what I’ve written and stops sending me useless, scripted responses.

And to “Marc Stanley” I give this little tidbit of wisdom: Sweetie, you’ll NEVER get anyone from Homestead to respond to an issue, no matter how urgent, on a weekend. Not by phone or by email… They don’t work evenings, weekends, or holidays. Nine to five, M-F, and that’s it. I will eat my shoes the day Homestead starts providing 24-7 customer support.

But the post I find on this blog the most disheartening, and the most alarming, is from the former Homestead employee. He/she brought up a lot of ghosts from my troubled past with Homestead, such as what a piece of crap their StoreFront shopping cart is…. (Gosh, I had almost forgotten what a nightmare THAT was. I had it and canceled it because, yes indeed, it IS a piece of “crap”…to put it mildly. But neither you nor I have enough time for me to even BEGIN to tell you THAT story). But “former Homestead employee” then also brought up a ghost from my future with Homestead when they ended their post telling us about their friend, who was having customer support issues, getting the “kick ya to the curb” e-mail from Homestead …. Wow. Justin tries to make it sound like his “firing” customers was all about the last company he worked for and how rarely it’s “necessary” with Homestead, but it’s starting to sound to me like “firing” customers happens a LOT more often at Homestead than he’d like to admit.

So I think I’m going to check out these other providers like Dreamhost and Liquid Web that keep getting mentioned in this blog since it looks like I’ll be needing another web host in the very near future. Anyone else have any other web hosts they can recommend?

John said,

February 19, 2007 @ 7:37 pm

Sorry you hear of your bad experience although not surprised.

As far as hosts go Liquidweb is the best there is IMO. they actually take the opposite approach. Their customer service is helpful to a fault!
I am actually blogging about Liquidweb tonight more or less in thanks for their help in setting up another enterprise server for us as well as helping us reconfigure another server we have with them.

I don’t know if Liquidweb would be right for everyone as I am unsure if they have a “pagebuilder” but for our business servers we wouldn’t think of using anyone else.

GL

TJ said,

February 20, 2007 @ 3:42 pm

GOOD NEWS!

While I sit anticipating the impending “we’re kicking you to the curb” email from Homestead, I’ve been researching other companies and I think I’ve found something ever better for us website owners that don’t know HTML!

I have been playing around with the free trial version of CoffeCup VisualSite Designer, and so far I’m very impressed.

Here’s how the compare to Homestead:
- They have the same, easy to work with, drag-and-drop WYSIWYG design tools as Homestead

TJ said,

February 20, 2007 @ 4:02 pm

Whoops! Wasn’t done….my finger slipped and hit the submit comment button before I’d finished…

Anyway, I started drawing up a comparison of CoffeCup and Homestead but it started to get really lengthy. So I deleted it all and I’ll just say, if you’re tired of Homestead’s “fire the customer” mentality and you’re looking for another website buildign software package that’s just as good (or better, in my opinion) than SiteBuilder, check out CoffeeCup! They’re awesome!

Former Homestead Employee said,

February 23, 2007 @ 1:41 pm

TJ…good to see that you are taking the high road. Hopefully you didn’t sign up for the FULL YEAR subscription. When you cancel with Homestead, you can only do it by calling them up and you’ll be sent to the “SAVES” team. You can get a lot for your time and trouble with maybe a free 3-6 months of their service, free Searchlight, etc. But they WILL try to save you. If you are fed up, just cancel and if they’ve charged you try to get that charge credited, even if you have a week left in the monthly subscription. they’ll usually oblige! GOOD LUCK!

Austin said,

March 9, 2007 @ 4:04 pm

On one of my assignments, we had a motto. You tell me what you want, I tell you how long it will take and how much it will cost.

It’s a job, not a marriage. We can talk but in the end, If the product doesn’t work, costs too much, or I don’t make any money - everybody is free to walk away. Nobody needs to cop an attitude. Both parties must derive benefit, or no deal - that’s life.

Isaac said,

April 13, 2007 @ 6:06 pm

yes, justin cares a lot about his employees and his customers. want to know something pretty sweet about his customer service? get this: all tech support technicians have to follow standard policy and procedures. say, you call into support, and you don’t like what you hear or you felt like you have been misled or given the run around — typical for a call center, right right? well, justin really cares about his customers, enough to the point he will mandate quick fix changes to delight his customers IF you contact him directly. his email address is on his blog and his website. it’s like magic. typically, companies wont even let their customers touch the ceo. but, justin wants to delight his customers, so he will certainly listen to you to the point where he disregards standard policy for refunds and such to delight his customers. so… FYI: when you want something done at homestead, bypass support and go directly to the CEO.

Mel said,

April 14, 2007 @ 12:21 am

I just put a comment on Justin’s CEO blog, and he edited it heavily, and then doesn’t answer the fact that Homestead won’t answer my support emails anymore asking for a blog. He (again) insists I should use their “element” to “embed” a blog. (Tried that, and it looked like ****). What is going on with this company???? I called them today to ask why my support emails are no longer answered, and the rep attacked me with name before I told him because he’s eyes were trained on their CALLER ID. (This is what Justin edited out in my comment on his blog). Why can’t they give us a real blog there? Google has requested that all web hosts provide them with their CNAME instructions, to make this easy for all, yet why won’t Justin comply?

Mel said,

April 14, 2007 @ 12:30 am

How do you switch webhosts when you’re making payments to Homestead for your domains? How do you switch webhosts when your SiteBuilder files only work with Homestead?

Heinous said,

April 25, 2007 @ 10:38 pm

I just had an experience with their new “SAVE” dept. There was no attempt at SAVING, just the most rude, dropping the phone, *ss that I’ve ever encountered. Things have changed at Homestead for the very worst since most of these posts have been placed here. I say they are having a corporate meltdown of the ugliest kind.

Kris said,

August 15, 2007 @ 12:53 pm

I am experiencing the worst customer service in my life. And yes it is Homestead Tech. I am having this really bad experience with them and decided to check out any blogs or any info that would tell me I’m not alone…I have found countless blogs and info that I am not alone……maybe they wouldn’t have disgruntled customers if they were kind and helpful and your problems would be solved but I’m still waiting after 4 days of emailing and phone calls for any acknowledgement of my problem of them taking alot of money from my checking account that was not authorized…and not putting it back where do you go from here when there is no management to talk to you and you keep getting the run around for days on end? They have my money and want it back!!! No one gives a _____!!!

Richard Scully said,

September 26, 2007 @ 11:29 pm

We are losing customers because our email through Homestead is failing constantly with no results.

Why don’t we all file a class action lawsuit?

We have thousands of pages on Homestead so we’re being held hostage.

Tim said,

October 19, 2007 @ 7:08 am

I don’t think the CEO of Homestead said “screw customers” - that was your interpretation. Plus, I don’t think that he was directing any of this comments to you personally.

Mary said,

November 1, 2007 @ 8:41 pm

We too have experienced the “screw customer” attitude from Homestead. When we recently switched to their new site builder, Google Ad Sense reported that all 300 + pages of our site were blocked. The response from Homestead was to tell us to remove Ad Sense ads and reload all 1,200 of them on our pages! They gave no explanation why we had to do that. The html of the ads was still the same as when we downloaded it from Ad Sense.

We informed Homestead that due to their inability to help us, we were moving our site elsewhere. Their reaction was to email us that it wasn’t their fault Ad Sense could no longer see the ads which showed perfectly with the old site builder. When we replied that it was now a moot point, we found a new host where Google Ad Sense could again scan their ads on our pages, all they did was repeat in two more emails how it wasn’t their fault. Sounds like they are just trying to cover their own behinds. Not a word that they they were sorry for all the income we lost or how much time it will take to move our site. So I truly believe that the Homestead motto is “screw the customers.”

SEO Homestead Website said,

December 17, 2008 @ 11:23 pm

Homestead rocks!! I have had nothing but good experiences with them. You should look at where your interests took you. The very company that taught you a lot about the Internet your now bashing.

That just aint right!

John said,

December 22, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

WHOA! How did you infer that Homestead taught anyone anything about the internet?
Apparently, you have a different opinion than the vast majority. Maybe it’s because your blog is about SEOing Homestead sites? Hmmm.

guy said,

January 8, 2009 @ 1:05 pm

Actually the only real problem here is that almost all of you are f**king morons and dont know jack sh*t about computers or the internet. Your the same morons that have no experience and want to build a website and then say hmmmm I only have 20 dollars to spend a month on advertising but I want to be number 1 on google. I dont personally use homestead because I dont need to use their software. But if your unable to program things on your own and you have to use a drag and drop style piece of software then get used to the fact that it wont have all the functionality in it that you want. If you actually understood how computers worked you would know that often when you make something easy to use it wont have as much functionality. Obviously none of you learned anything from using the very simple homestead software so maybe you should just stop using the internet. And for the guy that got pissed of about the reps response to his suggestions. Well you should be happy because instead of the rep just blowing you off by saying we will look in to it he was honest with you and told you the truth. I would rather have an honest response than a feel good response because if your running a business you need to know the truth. But oh wait your just worried about feeling good sorry to hurt your feelings mr dumbass.

John said,

January 14, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

Bad day guy?

Since Intuit purchased Homestead for somewhere around $170 million over a year ago I would imagine the customer service has improved?

As a user of many Intuit products including Quick Books Enterprise I have contacted their customer service in the past and have always had a good experience.

Maybe we will start hearing positive comments from Homestead users!

Ray said,

February 5, 2009 @ 6:26 pm

I understand your frustration, but think you are barking up the wrong tree. I have a Homestead site, and the Sitebuilder program works good, BUT:

Even if you have never built a website before…if you’re goal is to have a website that looks like you paid to have it built for you, and have flexibility to grow as you expand your abilities…Homestead is not your solution.

Personally I don’t have a problem with their crappy looking form elements, etc. I have found a way to work around a lot of the stuff although in many cases I had to buy seperate programs to build what I need and then upload it (in html) to Sitebuilder. Mind you, that is not any different than any other way you might find to creatively build your site.

Of course, it doesn’t allow you to do anything really dynamic, and herein lies the problem:

Homestead does not appear to me to really care much about improving what they already have.

Not being able to utilize php is a perfect example. They ran a beta test a few years ago and ultimately “shelved it” because they claimed that not enough users wanted it. LOL — ok ok I get it…a lot of the dummies who spend 90 minutes creating their amateur-ish looking website don’t want it, which is probably 80% of their customer base…but guess what?

Weblogs are going to take over the traditional website for 90% of those 80%, so that’s 72% of Homesteads existing customer base that will likely smarten up and just move over to Wordpress or Blogger eventually anyways.

Ultimately Homestead doesn’t care — they don’t care about having a cutting edge program, and I’m thinking there’s a good chance it bites them in the ass eventually.

OR…maybe they know something we don’t. Maybe they know they’ll be gone in a couple years anyways.

Suspiria said,

March 9, 2009 @ 7:45 am

I can’t believe I didn’t see this sooner. I was a paying homestead customer years and years ago, and now I realize why the heck the customer service people always acted like they didn’t give a rip about me one tiny bit.

I can appreciate SOME of what Justin said on his blog, but the heavy emphasis on “demoralization” in regard to employees was pretty annoying to read about. Why is employee morale important while customer morale is NOT? And its very clear, from that article and also my past experiences with Homestead that this is the case. If you have issues with Homestead, the customer service people have NO problem treating you like a tiresome burden, and its clear to me now, why that is. And getting back to the issue of morale, its pretty “demoralizing” as a customer to be told that you come third. I am sure plenty of Homestead customers were afraid to voice their concerns after reading that.

It sounds like demoralizing customers is an acceptable method of raising the morale of employees at Homestead. I am very glad that I never went back to them.

Deana said,

June 14, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

Can you please tell me how to get my files transferred from Homestead? I had someone build a site for me and unfortunately they built it on Homestead’s server. My domain is hosted by Hostgator, and because Homestead doesn’t allow FTP access, Hostgator cannot make the transfer because of security issues.

I must get my files from Homestead. Can you please tell me how you removed yours?

Cherie Jordache said,

January 15, 2010 @ 4:28 pm

Hi…
This is a lot to read off of the computer screen - I tried to print it off so I could read it and all I got was the ads to the right of the information printed but could not get it to print the information. How can I get this to print — or save it to my computer.

Would appreciate the help.

Thanks - Cherie

Summer said,

January 15, 2010 @ 4:40 pm

Response to Guy’s - sewer mouth/commentary above - Guy, your main-course of 4 letter words in your text — speaks as to the level of your own intelligence and your total lack of couth. No wonder the one word you do know how to spell is “Moron”! You sound like a Homestead employee - here’s betting you are!

Cherie said,

January 15, 2010 @ 4:51 pm

I am soon to be an ex- Homestead customer and I can tell you the biggest mistake Intuit made was leaving Justin Kitch and is Barbarian ways of dealing with Homestead customer in-tact. Homestead and now Intuit are lucky that there are millions of newbies out there for them to continue to Suck-In and Suck- Money-off of until they suck them dry and toss them aside like so much rubbish. If money was blood Homestead would be one of the biggest blood suckers there is.

What goes around does come around - often times here in many ways… i.e., bad health, etc etc. - often times not until the Judgment Day - but the FACT is one day Justin Kitch will receive treatment in kind for the horrid way he and his staffers treat the general public now. So keep up your abuse Justin God is watching and guess what he is a higher power than you.

ron said,

January 20, 2010 @ 1:57 pm

Let’s speak some refreshing truth here… Homestead is run by a crook - he is a pompous ars who comes right out and blatantly admits that he is a crook and brags about “firing customers” and stealing their money. His employees are his trained thugs nothing more and nothing less. He brags about screwing his customers. It is all over the internet true renditions by his various victims i.e. Homestead Customers! And think how many are out there his victims who never put complaints on the internet - or fight back just lie down and take his crap! (Sorry there are times when only accurate descriptions will work.)

He blows smoke up everyones arses by claiming he his protecting his employees from demoralization (how does that bull taste), from the general public/the American public/unfortunate Homestead Customers… the ones who dare to complain about the crappy service and crappy product that Homestead shoves down their throats once Homestead has stolen their money!! Now that is the truth of it.

A perfect analogy is: J.K. is the serpent … and the unknowing Newbies of the American Public and Internet world are his prey! Nothing but the truth here. He tries in areas of his writings… to candy-coat his malfeasance; but anyone with a functioning brain who does not go “baaah-baaah…” can see right through his candy coated poison.

Let’s call a spade a spade… J.K. and his band of well trained thugs (and that is all they are well trained in), are no better than a mugger on the street - the end result is the same!

The truth is anyone who produces a good product and gives good customer service - people/customers do not complain they compliment and appreciate - for 98% of the population that is true!

Fact… people would not be signing up as customers and paying Homestead their hard-earned money if Homestead employees/reps were not telling them that Homestead would deliver what they were looking for. Justin Kitch with his bogus BS that he spews out in his blogs - is taking all of the public to be pooop eating idiots… he insults everyones intelligence! He is wrong he is not fooling all of the people all of the time… Guess what Justin! A lot of us know you for who and what you really are!!!

The most incredible part of this hideous story is that Intuit allowed this parasitic money mongering thief to remain at the helm of Homestead… to continue thieving from and demoralizing Homestead Customers… thus delivering the deplorable and unacceptable message to Mr. JK that his evil/dastardly/practices is OK and even gets his “evil creation” purchased at 170 million and still leaves the crook in charge…. where is Intuits heads at? What does this say about them????????

Leaves most of us with functioning brains wondering… Birds of a Feather Flock Together… have you noticed that 99% of Cliches are TRUE.

The final question is who is going to have the B- - - - to finally step up to the plate - and put a stop to JK’s legal and moral abuse?

Danielle Cuddie said,

March 18, 2010 @ 9:05 am

I appreciate your point of view but have over 50 accounts through homestead where I actually help small business owners build their sites through them and have never hit a glitch. They have on numerous occasions been quick to help and have gone above and beyond to make sure I was more than satisfied by the end of the help call or ticket.

They have never given me any reason to look for another host and their CMS system is unbeatable for usability! Just my opinion I realize but there are two sides to everything.

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